Published by Suzy Soro on 03 Sep 2008 at 01:02 pm
Joker, Joker
You know that person who goes to parties and can rattle off a bunch of jokes? That person is really smart. Why bother to write jokes and take your chances when instead you can rattle off someone else’s and score a hit every time? There are many, many times I envy that person. When a standup comic goes to a party and reveals what they do for a living, the first thing people say is “Tell me a joke.” And here’s where I run into trouble.
I don’t know any.
There are entire websites and blogs dedicated to jokes. An endless supply of freebies out there for the taking. I asked a question on this blog a few posts back, if audiences cared whether jokes were stolen or not. Recently I read somewhere online (seriously, the web is too big. It’s making me miss encyclopedias, and how scary is THAT?) Apparently, audiences don’t care.

I had a comic friend, Larry Amoros, who was possibly one of the best joke writers in the business. The Tonight Show accepts jokes by fax but only if you qualify. To do that, you have to submit a page of jokes that are current, about politics or pop stars or other train wrecks on the radar. When Larry was first asked to submit ONE page, he sent in ten. Needless to say he got the gig. I once used him to help me punch up a book a psychotherapist had hired me to work on. Writing jokes about suicide and manic depression were no problem for Larry. For me, yes.
Larry also knew all the current party jokes which brings me to this story. One day I was on the phone with my boyfriend du jour and he told me this joke:
A man walks into his son’s bedroom and finds his son masturbating.
“Son, if you keep doing that, you’ll go blind.”
“Over here, Dad.”
I did not laugh. That joke is older than Hugh Hefner. It’s what comics call ‘stock.’ Stuff guys at Shriner’s conventions use. As I had just spoken to Larry and he had told me a really funny joke, (which of course I don’t remember) I repeated it to the boyfriend. When I finished HE didn’t laugh.
“What’s the matter with you? That joke was really, really funny.”
“You don’t laugh at my joke, I don’t laugh at yours.”
Apparently I was dating a fifth grader. Months later this same boyfriend and I were driving back from one of my gigs north of Los Angeles. I had a great show and this proved too much for this guy.
“Hey, did you hear the one about a man who walks into his son’s bedroom and finds his son masturbating?”
I said nothing. Maybe I drove into a tree.
“Son, if you keep doing that, you’ll go blind.”
“Over here, Dad.”
I laughed and laughed and laughed. Then I drove into a tree.
CYA this Friday.
Martha Jane on 04 Sep 2008 at 11:35 am #
I believe Jay now accepts material by email, but you have to be known. I loved it when I got my check from him (signed in blue pentel). Sometimes material will just be so au-currant that it must get out there immediately.
It was when the British had to give Hong Kong back to China. The punch line was,
“All over town there were signs saying, ‘Lost Our Lease. All Human Rights Must Go’.”
Of course, I could have resurrected it during the Olympics…but once you sell it, it’s not polite to take it back.
Aloha
Brad on 04 Sep 2008 at 1:09 pm #
Years ago I was one of many - perhaps thousands - of daily faxers to Jay. He bought quite a few of my jokes but there were a couple of reasons I stopped sending material in. Being a performer first and a writer second, I’ve never gotten much satisfaction from seeing other people do material that I’ve written. If they get a huge laugh I don’t think to myself “Hey, my line killed.” It’s more like, “They killed with my line…they got MY laughs.” Bastards. I remember one particular line I sold to him that got a long applause break in his monologue and the line was quoted in USA Today the next day as a joke of the day. The $50 check I received from Big Dog Productions was not enough to heal my wounded ego for not getting the accolades myself.
Another problem with writing topical jokes based on the news for a TV show is that you are not alone. No doubt Jay was receiving faxes from hundreds of middle class pasty white guys like me who all read the same newspaper and all had the same kind of TV monologue joke formula. On any given day there were probably at least a dozen submissions containing the same basic joke on the big story of the day. The only way to be fair about it, and back then that’s how the material was determined, is to pay the person who submitted the joke first, or at least whose fax was read first. I wasn’t involved with the selection process but always figured they would read material from their regular submitters before getting to the writers who were further down on the frequency of home runs list.
Nowadays I still writer jokes for others, but am very stingy. If it’s a great line that I can use in my act…I fax it to myself.
Brad
MereCat on 04 Sep 2008 at 5:56 pm #
Maybe I’m just getting old, but for one, I never hear any jokes anymore. From anybody. For two, if I do hear a joke, it’s totally stupid and I’ve probably heard it before.
Suzy on 05 Sep 2008 at 8:19 am #
Brad, that must have hurt to see the mediocre Leno take credit for your joke. Yea, hold on to them until the price is right. Oh wait, we’re in show buisness, the price is never right.
chandler in lasvegas on 05 Sep 2008 at 12:12 pm #
Wow, Larry Amorose, wasn’t he the guy that shut down production on the closeted Arsenio Hall show because he groped a guest? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Suzy on 05 Sep 2008 at 12:14 pm #
Chandler, yep, that’s him.
chandler in lasvegas on 06 Sep 2008 at 9:07 am #
Old, old, apocryphal Larry A story: ( As told to me with a group of comics performing on the bill) Larry picks up a handsome soldier on leave, through various imbibements the soldier goes up to Larry’s room and spends the night. Larry and the soldier appear at the round table breakfast the next morning and the soldier is groggy and quiet. A comic asks the strangely out of place man why he is so quiet. The soldier replies in a sheepishly hazy tone, “I think I did a homosexual act last night.” And Larry chimes in, ” Honey, Peter Allen is a homosexual act, last night you got fucked in the ass!”
And like the devil in Damn Yankees says…those were the good old days.